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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 19:17 Reply with quote
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Dear Friends!

Due to a lot of questions about our plans for PT Tu-154 for Microsoft Flight Simulator, and due to appearence of several "Tu-154m for FSX models", that uses PT components, PT Team wants to anounce its official position:

1. Projects Tu-154B and Tu-154M are only compatible with Microsoft Flight Simulator 2004 (FS9)

2. PT Team does not have plans to develop Tu-154 for FSX. Reasons:

- Low popularity of FSX;
- А huge work needed for programming for FSX, because our projects are based on non-standard solutions, which FSX does not support as well as deep difference in modelling for FSX comparing with FS9;
- Lack of time that is needed for updating for FSX, this time is very important to create a perfect version for FS9;
- Lack of specialists who can take developing for FSX - all of us are in FS9 project now;
- We do not have conditions for comfortable developing for FSX because of its system requirements. It means - most of our developers do not have computers on which FSX will start and work as fast as FS9.

3. PT Team does not have any deal with any of "Tu-154 for FSX model" which has appeared till today.

4. No authorisation was given since today to any person or team to use any of PT components for "Tu-154 for FSX" modelling.

5. PT Team greets any specialist who who wants to help us with the development on free-of-charge base, as well as PT Team is goodwilling to help any person or a team (advisorily or giving source materials) who wants to develop Tu-154 for FSX in individual manner which is based on seriousness of their intensions.

6. PT Team plans to support upcoming FS verions.


Sencerelly Yours,

PT Team


PS Sorry for English, it was really difficult to translate such bureaucracy Улыбка

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 20:53 Reply with quote
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You did well Denis. Finally we have it written.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 18:51 Reply with quote
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I really wish there was a way to convert the tu-154 to fsx. I have the PT 154 on fsx with SP2, everything works exept the vc has some texture issues. I can assure u if the TU-154 was made for fsx it would become emensly popular because most ''die hard'' simmers prefer fsx. Fs2004 is now 5-6 years old. Its about time to leave it behind. You don't need a supercomputer to run fsx, just a decent modern one. You guys have created a beautiful plane and theres no telling what can happen if it can be realeased for fsx.
I don't know much about programming, but i have seen several fsx updates for fs2004 aircraft. Surley it can't be that complicated to convert some textures?

Fs2004 is not gonna be popular for that much longer. As time goes on people will replace their computers and move on to fsx. Even fsx is now being preceeded by microsoft flight.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 19:53 Reply with quote
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ramster211


Hi welcome onboard.

Хорошо

As you see in Denokans post, for post-FSX there will be a version of PT-Tu154. Also other very good FS developers like David Malthby (DH Comet, BAC 111, Trident, VC10) decided not to develop their models for FSX.

As all these models are free, one has to accept, that besides creating FS-planes they have to do other things in life e.g. flying real airplanes. Улыбка
For me its a question of tradeoff and investment and the developers came to the conclusion its not worthwhile to work on a FSX-model.

For me its a small inconvenience passing the waiting time for post-FSX "flying" PT-Tu-154s in FS9.

Kind regards

Walter


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 12:30 Reply with quote
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ramster211 wrote:
I have the PT 154 on fsx with SP2, everything works exept the vc has some texture issues.


Are you shure, that it flies and behaves like it should?


Walter

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 16:22 Reply with quote
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ramster211 wrote:
everything works exept the vc has some texture issues


Either you're a troll or a genius. Хм...
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 23:24 Reply with quote
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Yes im certain it works. The flight dynamics are the same as they would be for fs2004. The flight charactersitics do not change with fsx. I have flown several other aircraft that were supposed to be ''fs2004 only'' with no issues. Ifact, whenever an old fs2002/2004 aircraft recieves an ''fsx update'' all it consists of is replacing the textures. There really is not much to it.

I think the flight sims don't have enough diversity in them. Most aircraft on fsx are US aircraft. Therefore it would be very interesting to get a nice looking Russian aircraft for fsx. I believe that Russian aviation has a special charm to it.

Sooner or later a flight sim enthusiast with programming experience will say the same, and hopefully you guys will not turn down a programmer than wants to make your project fsx compatible. The reason there probably has not been a great deal of support for an fsx PR tupolev is because not enough people know about what you guys created. As a matter of fact i only found this website by a quinsidence.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 13:36 Reply with quote
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ramster211 wrote:
Yes im certain it works. The flight dynamics are the same as they would be for fs2004. The flight charactersitics do not change with fsx. I have flown several other aircraft that were supposed to be ''fs2004 only'' with no issues. Ifact, whenever an old fs2002/2004 aircraft recieves an ''fsx update'' all it consists of is replacing the textures. There really is not much to it.



Hi: If it works for you, fine! Улыбка

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 17:32 Reply with quote
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ramster211


you're talking about the systems or just the visual model??

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 17:25 Reply with quote
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To Walter Leo

I just read your post of February 13, on David Maltbie not developping his planes for FSX. I have copied and pasted all his planes from FS9 to Fsx (including the DMSS shared files) , and they work prefectly in FSX. I only had to add the thumbnails in some of them.

This is also the case with many aircraft, such as Savoia Marchetti S73 and S81, junkers, AN 12 BK, DH 89, Rick Piper HS748 and other. I have copied them from FS9 to FSX, and they work without problem.[/img]
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 21:46 Reply with quote
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The Tu154M is a very advanced addon and here it does not work properly. The model is fine but the panel is not working and has black parts in it. Tried that a while ago.
It really is a pity that this bird is not working in FSX. If i knew anything about programming I would have tried to modify the panels and gauges, but I don't know anything about it.

If I had a good Tu154M for FSX, I wouldn't be using FS9 anymore... All my other flights are in FSX...
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 06:37 Reply with quote
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Personally I am happy that Project Tupolev is focusing on FS9 instead of FSX where all the other developers are.

FS9 is still my favorite simulator, and especially with the Tu-154M which is the only aircraft I fly.

I look forward to the "perfect" version of the Tu-154M for FS9, and that the projects still alive : ) Any news on the progress?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 06:02 Reply with quote
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Christopher280

Hi!

For not going on with an outdated tread please refer to the FSX forum (FSX Tu 154B2) and to the versions 2.02 and 2.03 of PT Tu-154M.

The problems mentioned here are solved.

What will come out in short time will be the english "Brief Flight Manual" for the Tu 154M.

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Re: Future of PT
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 08:30 Reply with quote
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WalterLeo wrote:
Christopher280

Hi!

For not going on with an outdated tread please refer to the FSX forum (FSX Tu 154B2) and to the versions 2.02 and 2.03 of PT Tu-154M.

The problems mentioned here are solved.

What will come out in short time will be the english "Brief Flight Manual" for the Tu 154M.

Kind regards

Walter


WOW... I'm sorry, didn't check the dates as I thought this was recent as the FSX Tu-154B-2 was not released that long ago.

Looking forward to the manual though, as I still have some difficulties flying this very complex airplane.

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Brief Flight Manual for Tu 154M is out
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Christopher280


Hi:

look here:

http://www.protu-154.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=194192#194192

The managment of the systems is explained in the Tu-154M manual which comes with the download of Tu 154M ver 2.02. If you tumble over some problems there is ample information in various treads available. But once you have mastered that the engines are running, the problems are minor.

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