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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 01:01 Reply with quote
FilipeFonseca
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Hello, guys and girls.

One question:

The real Tu-154 reverser deploy some feets above of the ground on landing, not on ground, as the biggest part of aircrafts.

Is this procedure normal?
PT Tu-154 simulate this?


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 08:04 Reply with quote
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Hello, Filipe

Yes, this is normal if there is a short runway or if it needed for any other safety reason.

There was a freeware gauge that allow to use reverse thrust in the air under FS9 but unfortunately it is not available by now.

Maybe someone who downloaded it earlier will help you.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 00:12 Reply with quote
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even with the gauge installed, I'm not sure it would realistically simulate the aerodynamic effects of reverse thrust deployment in the air, so there is room for debate over its usefulness in the first place.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 13:15 Reply with quote
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Nevertheless it would be fun to have it!

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 00:29 Reply with quote
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Hi,

I think this feature would be very useful also for other FS aircraft. Often I've got the problem that the reverses deactivating themselves on a bumpy touchdown everytime the wheels lose contact to the runway. This extend the landing distance furthermore.

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Bumpy Touchdown
PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 15:04 Reply with quote
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You are speaking of a touchdown of the kind the tower afterwards tells you "Your mean landing time was xx:xx". At least in real sportflying they tell you so.

Радостный

Besides that the DC-8 could not deploy the spoilers while airborne, but could use the reversers inflight. Was quite loud this way of braking while in a descent.


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Re: Bumpy Touchdown
PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 22:17 Reply with quote
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WalterLeo wrote:
You are speaking of a touchdown of the kind the tower afterwards tells you "Your mean landing time was xx:xx". At least in real sportflying they tell you so.

Радостный

Besides that the DC-8 could not deploy the spoilers while airborne, but could use the reversers inflight. Was quite loud this way of braking while in a descent.


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Walter


Hi Walter! Hi all !

Yep but only on inner engines ! (2&3) ...

I confirm noise ! but quite a lot of vibrations inside the bird too !!! Удивление
Experiment made on French Air Force DC8-53 (DC8-33 powered with PW JT3B3D)

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DC-8 reversers
PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 14:30 Reply with quote
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My experience was in a EASTERN DC-8 60 or something Mexico-New York and in a IBERIA DC 8 60 ? Madrid Paris.
A friend of mine Cap. Manuel flew the DC-8 and was flightinstructor for that also. I was with him once in a full motion simulator, where he showed to a young crew to land it without hydraulics. Both pilots had to handle the controls, so heavy they were without the boost of the hydraulics. The landing was a solid arrival not a kissing sweet landing, but nothing was bent.



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Reverser deploying
PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 16:49 Reply with quote
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For the problem of ROBOTER there is also a procedural cure: Over the fence of the airport fly exactly V landing (or V REF in western lingo) and put the spoilers to automatic deployment. Passing the numbers of the RWY at 6 meters flare the plane at 5 deg nose up (or 6- 8 deg ALFA) chop the power and wait, dont try to force the nose more up. Every plane (not only the Tu-s and Boeings) will land very well in this way. The Concord will demand 11,5 deg nose up. Most simulator landings (even the most expensive ones) are done in that way, Boeing and Tupolev prescribe that for the real planes also.

Best greetings and happy landings

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